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Norma L. Brumbaugh — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:05:21 +0000

CONNECTING IN REAL LIFE

SHE WAS BROKEN. I was surfing the web. I sensed her fright. Somehow we connected on Private Messenger. We communicated. She suffered, was suicidal, and scared out of her wits. PTSD, big time. I tried to be there for her. The best I could. Would it be enough? She eventually got past the crisis, but it was a hard fight to get there. We fought together as she drudged through the dark side. Her life, filled with pain. My life, older overcomer. Our friendship forged a destiny throughout it all. To this day, we have not met in person. Some day. I hope.

This is an honest account of a woman’s suffering behind the mask.

Emily has approved the sharing of these private conversations to help others. I am thankful for her graciousness.

“Emily” is a pseudonym to protect her identity.

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The End but Not The End: Conversations with Emily (23)

Norma L. Brumbaugh — Tue, 05 Jul 2016 07:05:37 +0000

“Emily” has shared parts of her story in three or more books, but she writes more from the helper angle, as I have in this series. I am hopeful that certain areas of her personal story and our open dialogue have resonated with you.

What Does it Mean?

May 18, 20**

04/18/20** 5:55pm

Emily: u doing ok?

Me: I am feeling emotional. Spiritually. I feel a great desire for God. Yesterday I went to the Monastery for their mass. Twenty monks in a circle were singing praises to God. Never been to a service like that before. Later, I went to the Anglican Church for their Maundy Thursday service, a tradition with me. Christ’s love is overwhelming me. I feel blessed. I have been praying for you. I also get emotional b/c my family no longer lives near me, which makes holidays more empty.

Emily: I hear ya

pray for son please

04/18/20** 5:59pm

Me: May I ask, is it health or other?

04/18/2014 7:09pm

Emily: Long story short is that we have spent the afternoon trying to get to the bottom of why things are sounding different. To better understand the situation, my son was born blind 14 1/2 yrs ago and we began dealing with hearing loss in kindergarten. He had additional loss in 3rd grade and significant loss in 6th grade leaving him totally blind from birth with 70% loss in both ears as of last check this past fall. We had a scare again last fall, but God showed up in big ways. This afternoon he came in by me panicked he was going deaf. I learned long ago with all of his medical issues that when I can remain calm…at least on the outside…he handles things much better. So I jumped on the phone at 4p hoping to get a hold of his hearing specialists, but found they were already gone for the weekend. I’ve left messages and scheduled appointments for the soonest possible opening…which is the end of May and not acceptable to me, but I play the game of making the appt and then calling around to find the right doctor who can move it up for us…in case you ever wants to know how to play the game. We ended up running over to urgent care and were able to see his pediatrician who can only tell us the ears look good…clean, drum looks healthy, & no fluid behind it. So….now we wait to hear from his specialists at Children’s hospital Mon morning. Needless to say it’s gonna be a long weekend waiting. Even with the distraction of Easter and spending time with family his anxiety is heightened and with the autism it may make it a really long weekend as he struggles with everyday routines under stress like this. So I ask you to pray for peace for him and strength for me to remain calm throughout this situation while we wait for answers next week sometime and phone calls returned Mon. It’s nothing new, but the only way I’ve learned to manage through is prayer.

Thanks for praying. I PRAISE GOD FOR YOU!

04/18/20** 10:17pm

Me: Yes. I praise God for you, too. I just read this and feel the scariness of this, a panic for “Isaac,” the fear for the two of you. I must admit to not understanding God’s ways, but I do know He holds us in the palm of His hand. Father God, I pray peace and calm during the storm. I ask healing and miracles for Isaac to the glory of God. May he always praise You with his life. We always pray that Your will would be done, I pray Your will for Isaac. He needs You to touch him and so does his momma. In this Easter weekend, I pray that you would do something beautiful for Isaaac. Cast your love around him and speak to his spirit. May he feel assurance from You that everything will be okay. I ask this request in Jesus name, Amen

04/19/20** 4:28am

Emily: Ty

04/19/20** 8:10am

Me: I prayed a long time for him last night. ((Emily)) blessings to you.

Emily: thanks…he says still no changes today, but i can tell he is much more calm about it all

Me: I wish and hope for a miracle.

Emily: we r too

Me: God be with you. Gotta go to a choir practice in a bit.

Emily: k…i’m heading out for a run

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April 20, 20**

04/20/20** 7:34am

Me: Happy Resurrection Day!

04/20/20** 10:41am

Emily: He Is RISEN! HALLELUJAH!!!

04/20/20** 12:21pm

Me: Amen. Preach it, sister!

04/26/20** 1:04pm

Me: Are you having fun?

Emily: Trying amidst everything that is happening back home.

Me: I hope you will be able set that stuff aside for the moment and be blessed. I wonder what it’s like to see people you’ve only known as a social media entity. Interesting! I need to keep you in my prayers. I keep getting distracted! Talked to each one of my sons today via cell phone. It was nice … and time consuming! Going to a Christian school fundraiser dinner in a couple of hours. Blessings…

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April 29, 20**

04/29/20** 4:08am

Emily: I’m not ok…burying friend today who took her own life, and I’m feeling responsible because I didn’t listen to the God nudging in the last couple weeks.

04/29/20** 7:49am

Me: Oh no! I’m so sorry. That’s a grief in two ways. That happened to my mom with my sister. She kept thinking she should call her but didn’t because she wasn’t feeling well. Well, I will pray for you. Maybe you can be of comfort to her family. They will need it.

04/29/20** 1:52pm

Emily: thx

04/29/20** 3:50pm

Me: I’m back from church now. One of the women stayed after to talk with me. It was good. Been thinking of you. I won’t say anything inquisitive. Words fail me. Just know you have my thoughts and prayers. I do want to know if her family is Christian.

04/29/20** 6:29pm

Emily: four hours later we are back from the service at church now too

05/02/2014 8:29am

Me: Hey friend, hi ya.

Emily: Hey

Me: How was last weekend? How many women? (at the book launch retreat)

Emily: I’m not a good one to ask…was torn between tragedy at home and trying to be present

It was good from what I can remember

Me: Sure. You were sad. I didn’t know when the tragedy happened. Was there someone you connected with at the retreat?

Emily: Yes

It was good to meet in person

Me: Yes. A wonderful thing. It was a prayer-filled weekend for me. One of my (church) women, she’s 35, was in the mental care facility for three days. Jennifer’s book has caused her to remember and face some horrible memories. I asked many people to pray for her. She is some better and really wants to live for God. I hope she will let me come closer. She’s in emotional pain right now. I know it’s not an easy fix. I don’t always know the answers.

The thing I see changing, is I am becoming an older woman helping the younger. Just like scripture. What a privilege. Pretty cool stuff. Other stuff, two of my sons are coming for Mother’s Day. Yay! Have to go move pipe in the orchard now and then start the irrigation. Later…

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May 4, 20**

05/04/20** 9:44pm

Me: Hello my friend. I know it’s late so this can be your morning greeting! The joy of the Lord will be your strength. HAGD! N.

05/05/20** 4:05am

Emily: Having a REALLY hard time hanging onto joy in this grief

05/05/20** 8:54am

Me: Yes. That’s the way it is. Some things you have to bear through. Maybe instead of “the joy of the Lord” it is “The Lord be your strength (strong tower).” There is a season for everything. A time to mourn… GBU

Emily: I’m scared

I’m getting swallowed up in this and can’t get out

Me: What is it? Sadness is natural. pain is too. One has to work through the emotions. Guilt is a common emotion to everyone left behind. Regret is normal as well. That is why suicide is so devastating. It impacts everyone who loved and cared. I hate it. Yet, I also understand the desire to escape that is an overwhelming response to pain. One of the reasons we are using our voices.

Do you want to tell me about her?

Emily: I just want this crushing of emotions to end

Me: Do you hear voices?

Emily: It’s crossed my mind to go join her in the river. I don’t want to do that to my son but I don’t know what else to make this stop

I’m losing time…things like going to the basement to get clothes from dryer only to find I already got them at some point already and don’t recall when. Or stopping at an intersection not seeing any oncoming traffic and checking both ways to look up into oncoming traffic and be startled by a vehicle that just seems to have appeared out of no where. What seems like just seconds to me makes me do a double take and question how long I was sitting at that intersection anyway

Me: It’s not the answer. And you know it. That would ruin his life and mark him forever. I have experienced what you are speaking of. The mind can only cope with so much. After that it is frazzled. I’ve had some major upsets and my mind was on over-load. I wasn’t sharp.

Emily: I just don’t wanna do something stupid when I’m not thinking straight

Me: Brains have a limit too. I became agoraphobic at one point. I had four children at the time. I couldn’t sleep worth a darn. And there was little money. I had to quit my job because of the waves of blackness that would make me feel faint. I didn’t trust myself to drive the car because I was sleep deprived. It was a slow return to normal. But I got there (with no medication either). A friend gave me a book that helped me, Hope and Help for Your Nerves. It helped dismantle my fear cycle by making me realize that my fear of my fear symptoms was part of the problem. Really, too many life events had put me into a panic mode. I don’t know why I’m telling you all of this. Just remember, there is always (always) hope. You are a woman who has much to offer. Don’t loose sight of the blessings that God has put in you. You are a miracle. You have been rescued out of the pit. God don’t make mistakes. I’m pulling for you. Some day I want to be on the cover of Guidepost magazine with you, and a speak to the blessing/miracle of our friendship. I am certain to go through tough times in the future, and YOU will be one of my encouragers.

You’re right, it’s scary when you can’t depend on your physical body. I will pray. I’m getting off now. I am babysitting my niece in a few minutes and I need to get myself together. I will pray.

Just teasing about Guideposts. Just saying. God is here.

Emily: thank you

05/05/20** 10:19pm

Me: GN Emily. G is playing the Beauty and the Beast theme song. A good one to ease in the ending to the day. Tomorrow the ladies come to my house. I shampooed the carpet today. It’s our last session for the morning group. We will have lunch together. I hope it has a nice closure to it. Let me know how you’re doing sometime in the day. I won’t be so talkative tomorrow. I won’t have as much time. Take care, N

Name three things that make you happy.

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May 6, 20**

05/06/20** 4:03am

Emily: Got nothing these days

05/06/20** 4:46pm

Me: It all depends.

Emily: Sun, son, & SON

Starting to see blue sky from behind the dark storm clouds that have been hovering over me

Me: Yes. Good.

05/06/20** 5:54pm

Me: I just found out my cousin has lymphoma. He and I are close but don’t see each other very often. It’s sobering news. He is an AA sponsor and has strong faith–but marches to a different drummer… unconventional… which is something I like about him. He works for Boeing. Gotta teach ladies tonight. They like to talk so it runs late. One of the ladies can pray with power. I love listening to her pray. Blessing, N.

Emily: i’ll pray…came home last week to find out my house was made into a safe house for my sis in her marriage and just found out yesterday my aunt was diagnosed with some sort of cancer…she’s having a hysterectomy next Tues….all of this is just a lot on top of my friend’s suicide

05/06/20** 10:03pm

Me: Just got home. Lots going on in your life. TU for the prayer.

05/08/20** 7:16am

Emily: not doing ok, but just left msg to schedule appt with therapist…praying she doesn’t let me back out when she actually gets to calling me back to schedule

Me: I think that’s a good step forward. I will pray that it will come together for you and it will help. I’ll be praying different times today.

Emily: thx

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May 8, 20** 8:35pm

05/08/20** 8:35pm

Me: Tried to get back to you sooner but it didn’t happen. Let me know how it went today.

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May 9, 20**

05/09/20** 2:14am

Emily: Have appt scheduled for Mon and spoke with sis. Uneventful day with her showing up but spoke with local women’s shelter about ways to keep us all safe at my house. Had sobering conversation with my son at dinner because he overheard my conversation with my sis on the phone and had questions. He is prepared to call police if he hears commotion and knows he should stay in his room or the basement with the boys and not come find out what’s going on.

05/09/20** 7:31am

Me: My goodness. That’s unsettling. Prayers for protection and safety today.

Emily: only unsettling if he needs to act on what we’ve discussed

otherwise he is feeling prepared

and i’m feeling better now that we’ve discussed it as well

Me: Ok

Emily: sad to have to share it with him though

Me: That’s right. Is it a case of domestic abuse?

Emily: sis says he hasn’t, but both of them r getting in each others face and the kids are hearing them both say hateful things to each other

Me: I see. Spiraling out of control.

Emily: and I’m trying not to

Me: That’s good.

Emily: don’t know how good it is…I’m barely holding on

Me: Right. But the desire is there.

Emily: i guess

Me: You’re a fighter. You’ll get there.

Emily: guess so

bit of a scary ride though

Me: True. Getting off now. Son #1 is gonna borrow the IPAD. Blessings.

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And so we come to the end of this authentic story. Because of a promise I made to God–to help anyone who seemed suicidal–before I ever met Emily, this all happened. All I knew at the time was that she was in trouble. I didn’t know squat about her. The more she opened, the more comfortable it became. A real friendship developed. I was throwing all I knew at the wall and hoping something would stick. But I didn’t want to risk being preachy, either. You may wonder if I still have contact with Emily. I do. Our conversations no longer have the intensity, but I love reading what she posts.

Real life has many secrets. People have secrets. Hidden wounds fester. They can have mastery over us. PTSD is another animal of which I am not qualified to address. However, with Emily I acted as an honest friend. True friends care and tell the truth, but they also look for right opportunities to do so…and pray to that end. Bless you on your journey. It would be helpful for me if you would leave feedback for me in the comments.

God bless you,

Norma

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Emily and Me: The Conversation Continues (22)

Norma L. Brumbaugh — Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:00:10 +0000

Although “Emily”and I have developed a secure friendship and have covered many difficult subjects, her struggle to overcome continues to defeat her. Now she is writing about her life for another book, which, again, opens her up for memories that hurt and revisit her. The good thing is that she is talking about it with me rather than ignoring it or doing something harmful.

JUST PLAIN SCARED: CONVERSATIONS WITH EMILY

The conversation continues.

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April 6, 20**

04/06/20** 8:19pm

Emily: just ok’d the edits for the chapter i submitted last week…i wanna throw up!

Me: Why?

Emily: scared…totally vulnerable…might as well run around town naked

Me: Yes. That’s how my kids feel when I write, even though I’m kind. Does it have your name?

Emily: yes

Me: Yep. Did you pray over it?

Emily: yup

Me: Now it’s in God’s hands. Who is writing the book?

Emily: “Dee” has gathered 30 women to each write a chapter

Me: Is she part of “Jennifer’s” team?

Emily: she and jennifer partnered for her, Dee’s, last book a couple years ago

Me: I see. I don’t know Dee.

Emily: national christian women entrepreneurs

NACWE…national association of christian women entrepreneurs

Me: I didn’t know there was such a thing. Wow.

Emily: https://www.facebook.com/NACWE or nacwe.org

Me: I will check it out. Thx

Emily: just joined last May

Me: Did you join to network with other ladies?

Emily: ya. other like minded

Me: Yes. I suppose it’s been beneficial.

Emily: some

would u pray tonight

Me: Yes.

Emily: I’m sure its just the enemy as i submitted final copy, but still managing my body feeling or reliving stuff tonight

Me: Ok. I want you to try something. When the bad thoughts come, tell Satan you know it’s him trying to scare you, that you’re onto him. Tell him he has no power over you and to take a hike. if you’ve done this before, do it again. Say it out-loud.

Emily: i’ll try…just wanna run & am numb

Me: Of course you are sensitive right now. The evil has been remembered. I even feel it when I read people’s stories. I felt it with our blogs for Jennifer, that the emphasis was getting to be too much on the pain not enough on God’s victory.

Father, bind Emily’s mind to the mind of Christ. Loose her from any lies or influences from Satan and his traps. Set her free, completely free. Send your Holy Spirit in power and love to flow peace through her body and soul. Amen

Awaken, my friend. Be comforted.

Emily: so wish we could pray together in person…gonna try to get some sleep tonight…THANK YOU

Me: Amen. Much love, sweet Emily.

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April 9, 20**

04/09/20** 10:56am

Me: You are a treasure. God has been with you throughout your journey. He’s so gracious. Just reread your story as part of this week’s lesson. So weird to be personally acquainted with the person I’m reading about. Thank you for being willing to be vulnerable by sharing your story. It is sure to help others. One of the women in my study group is trying to reinvent her life. She is 35. It is a big spiritual battle for her, many woundings and strongholds. I am thankful that God is leading this study, not me. Otherwise I’d be scared of saying the wrong thing.

Blessings to you as always. N

April 11, 20**

04/11/20** 11:44am

Emily: hey

Me: Hey

Emily: Could use prayer if u have a moment

04/11/20** 2:15pm

Me: Will pray.

Emily: ty

scrolling through my newsfeed i just saw pic on a friend’s page of her and her bro for sibling day…totally triggering as her bro is one of my abusers…i just wanna throw up!

Me:

That was a jolt outta the blue. Suggestion. Pray a blessing on him. Leave it with God. Bless those that curse you. Only possible through Jesus.

Emily: do i have to?

do NOT want to

just wanna curl up in a ball and cry or sleep

or maybe cry self to sleep

Me: Well, nope, you don’t have to. Crying helps. Then lift it to God.

Emily: no and no and no

Me: Well, you must confront it, not avoid it. Where we are wounded we must seek deep healing, and then freeing. It was no accident that you saw his pic. It was a dare. Are you going to engage in your healing or are you going to submerge in your pain? Only you can face this, I can only pray. I see where you are locked in a cage, unable to free yourself. You can walk free. Believe this. Believe.

Going to get G. Be back in 20 min.

Emily: i will never be free of this

i gave in…doesn’t matter anymore

Me: At the school waiting. Of course it matters. Don’t stop believing… as the song says. I know you can be free.

Emily, you need someone praying you through this. Asking God to give you healing words that speak.

Emily: don’t waste ur time

Me: What is this?

Emily: me on a bad day

sorry

Me: Emily, Emily.

Emily: whatever

seriously…forget about it…

tomorrow’s a new day

Me: Sorry I didn’t give you much empathy. Well, sorta sorry. It’s just such a lovely day! Wish you could Enjoy it!

Emily: started lovely here, but has gotten colder and cloudier

Me: Perfect weather in Chico. Gotta call my tax accountant now. Just lovely.

Emily: have fun…i’m working on my taxes this weekend too, UG

04/11/20** 6:33pm

Me: I have two businesses now: writing and farming. So I pay someone to figure it out for me.

Emily: ya…that’ll prob be next yr…f/t employment along with (my two side businesses) right now…maybe writing or ministry by next yr

lots to keep track of

Me: Yes! I hope to have two more books published by then.

Emily: that’d be AWESOME!!!!

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April 14, 20**

04/14/20** 8:31pm

Emily: how was ur night?

Me: Ok. I’m being lazy

Emily: i owe u an apology for the other day…i’m sorry u were on the receiving end of my bad day

Me: At least you can be crabby with me.

Can I be nosy? Did you ever hear back from that guy?

Emily: which guy? there r a few of them that have surfaced recently

Me: Really! The first one.

The date!

Emily: oh, the date…he’s liked some of my posts on fb and i have some of his, but nothing more has come from it

he doesn’t live in the area though…his parents do.

Me: The April Fool’s guy (a hulk, photo on FB), now that was a cute joke.

Emily: oh him…ya, he’s fictitious

just a guy i found online

Me: I once knew a guy like that, 15 years younger than me. He was either a very wonderful Christian or a super good con. He kept pursuing (long distance). Boy, could he pray. I loved to listen to him.

We would skype.

Ok….

Emily: ok, what?

Me: I’m being stupid.

Emily: lol

k

Me: I am feeling spring fever. Don’t want to study for my bible study tomorrow.

Pretty bad when the leader is that way.

Emily: na…just that time of yr

Me: I pulled some weeds in the backyard, so I did something worthwhile today.

How’s “Isaac” doing?

Emily: good…on spring break

Me: Nice

Emily: no…u were right…ice…snowed today! UG!

Me: Oh my. We’re in the 80s. Move to Calif.

Emily: i’m soooooo there!

Me: I have a new prayer request. I really need someone to help me with my computer stuff. I spend tons of time trying to figure things out …with moderate success. I want someone who can come over and help me. I’ve been relying on my son but I think its time to do it differently. He’s willing but I think I need someone who lives here.

Emily: so THAT’S why u want me to move there!?

um…u know i work in IT, right?

Me: I just want to be moving forward but I stay stagnate. Of course it could be the Lord, not the right time.

It gets frustrating at times.

Emily: i believe it

Me: Ain’t getting any younger either.

Emily: age has nothing to do with it…all about willingness to learn, my friend

Me: I’ve been learning. It’s crazy how much I’ve learned. But I still spin my wheels and run into roadblocks. Enough of my complaining. Gotta get focused on my lesson. I just need to review it. I prepared it last Wed.

Emily: then get to it!

Me: Ok. You be good. Nice talking with you. Later…

Emily: adios, cinnamon toast

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